Twisted Negativity
Shortly after posting yesterday’s entry, my [now former] friend sent me a message admonishing me for being an uncaring and unfeeling meanie in regards to people with depression.
So feeling very unjustly accused, I emphasised strongly that I was not bitching about people with depression, but was ranting about self centred people who THINK they have a RIGHT to be depressed and entertain suicidal thoughts. F#@$ I hate it when people don’t read properly before trying to shove their self righteous opinions down my throat.
Then this [now former] friend whom I shall now call NFF then tried to justify himself. “But Jasz, if one thinks that they are depressed; then they MUST be depressed no?”
So I countered that with, “Yes, if one does have a VALID reason to be depressed i.e. a medical diagnosis of clinical depression then fine, thou art depressed. And even then one has to get help for that condition and not just sit on their rears and do nothing.”
I then got slapped with this website and NFF’s self pitying “did you read what it said on the webpage? ‘Those with depression think it must be them. Pointlessness and self-loathing govern them.’ It GOVERNS them. And it’s so true. I mean, I for one went through it a little – and I didn’t have any real reason for being depressed but the feeling just kept eating me up.”
He earned himself a great big SCOFF from me right then. I told him, “Indeed, and if you remember correctly I stopped talking to you then. You weren’t seeing reason. People have a choice – you can give up and let it consume you or you can fight it. That is my whole point – it is the will to fight but most of these SCSCDSP (self centred so called depressed & suicidal people) don’t WANT to solve the problem.” And then I slapped him back with his website. “It also says on the website that DEPRESSION IS TREATABLE. What I’m ranting about are the people who don’t want to.”
NFF then sneered at me with a smug, “do YOU actually know how to treat depression?”
Sure I do, idiot. Let me pull out my medical degree from my left nostril and shove it up your rear end. However, what I do know is that Clinical Depression can be diagnosed and fixed with medication (hello, Prozac), therapy, eating happy feel good food and doing things you enjoy with people you love. And that is just from a logical point of view. Depression for Dummies: Get professional help. Like, duh.
However, still trying to force feed his opinions to me NFF then said, “I suppose you could do all that in the early stages of depression but I don’t know Jasz, it’s a really hard one to call. I mean, even you stopped talking to me. Some people are resistant to getting help and it also varies depending on what you’re depressed about and your personality traits. One could be a high introvert who just wants to detract from everything. Not everyone has the same kind of willpower you have. I can’t help it if you don’t see my point. You can go on being mean about them but I on the other hand empathise with them.”
All together now: OMG he still doesn’t get it. I’m ranting about the people who are resistant to getting help. The people who think they have the bloody effing right to be depressed. NOT the people who have clinical depression and are truly suffering from a medical problem. Am I really that much of a mean, unfeeling bitch because I do not feel that these self indulgent asshats deserve my empathy, sympathy and attention?
WELL THEY ARE GETTING JACK SHIT FROM ME!
The Maker gave us all free will – the freedom of choice (and to make decisions), freedom (and ability) to change your status in life, freedom to change your mindset and make your life better but these people don’t even WANT to try. But what NFF is accusing me of is that I devalue what people with real depression are suffering, that I am trying to impose my strong will on these poor people who are physically unable to ‘snap out of it’. And he is WRONG to assume and accuse me so because as I’ve already stated, that’s not the point I’m trying to make. And that just PISSES ME OFF.
So I really put my foot down. I told him under no uncertain terms, “I don’t have a problem with people who have been diagnosed to be clinically depressed. What I ranted about in the blog are about people who REFUSE to try to change – I mean, if one feels so strongly about suicide shouldn’t one be getting help? It is all too easy to go to a doctor, a psychologist, a psychiatrist even. It is all too easy to get medical help for a valid medical problem. Why should depression be different from any other illness – say cancer for example. If a friend of yours had cancer you’d force them to go get treatment so they can get better right? People who have cancer fight it. People with depression should as well. Its not different at all – cancer can be terminal, and depression can be as well (albeit from the end of a gun barrel, the roof of a building or a bottle of weed killer) so why don’t people treat it the same way? And the website you gave me emphasises how people can be treated successfully – the odds of a cure is better for depression than it is for cancer. Stick to the topic. I am talking about people who refuse to get help, who refuse to accept help, who refuse to change their point of view and who refuse to listen to LOGIC and REASON and POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT because they’d prefer to wallow in their own self indulgent suicidal depression.”
Then, still not happy because I’m refusing to budge from my standpoint he whined, “MY point is even those people need help too, even when they don’t want it or refuse it but the sad fact is at some point the world is not able to help them.”
OMFG. Give me a bloody flipping break! You see, that’s the problem with these selfish bastards. EVERYTHING ALWAYS HAS TO BE ABOUT THEM. So I replied, “You my [NF]F, and all these egocentric people started out with friends who cared, who meant very well, who tried to help and tried to make a difference. You, and all these selfish asswipes, pushed your friends away, and then blame us for leaving!”
“But…” For crying out loud he’s still not finished. He continued, “Isn’t it obvious that something happened that made them do that. Who knows what’s going on in their heads, I don’t diss them simply because I can’t profess to know everything that has gone on in their lives. I got depressed because I kept thinking about the negative areas like what I didn’t have, what I was missing etc. So I do feel for these people who chose the path to destruction. I care about the people who ‘don’t deserve it.’ I can only hope that YOU do as well Jasz.”
You smug, self righteous, piece of shit. I mean, he can’t even see that he contradicts himself and he refuses to see that he is dragging out this argument for his own petty reasons – for him to feel justified that he has a right to be ‘depressed’ and that I should feel sorry for him. Textbook ‘oh boo hoo, I’m so wronged, no one cares, my life sucks, you should all feel sorry for me, I want to die’ bullshit.
Well NNF and the rest of them can suck my dick. I will not waste emotion, pity and effort to try to help these undeserving f#@$tards because there are others out there who deserve it more. Like the disabled, the sick, the poor, the elderly, the decrepit and the victims of crimes & war.
So after all that, I clicked on Block User Forever and opened my Facebook (y’all should join up and then add me, it’s awesome – it’s free!) to Ripple and happily clicked away to support my charities (you folks should as well). I am not an uncaring, unfeeling meanie. I will admit to being a cold hearted and callous bitch some days but deep down inside, y’all know I’m the biggest softie around. Just ask my real friends.
June 28th, 2007 at 3:51 am
Wow. Long blog entry.
Anyway, I’ve just thought that
you can set a good example/be a guide for the NFF by just simplying chasing your dream / joy, etc.
He can see for himself - you, going out there to be happy, and him, moping and around feeling down. A simple choice.
..the pursuit of happiness in itself sometimes is a tough thing and takes constant effort..
oh well, just me 5 sen worth (i had no comments for the ‘brazilian’.. so there)